Wow.
well, let's see.
The "opposing viewpoint" links you've posted are from women who are more irrationally angered about men than you are about women. That's to be expected, as it's your forum and you want to support your own point, but in case you publish this mail, I want to state the obvious: not all, not even a majority of women feel quite that way, or even remotely close to that way.
In fact, there is a whole, published faction of feminists who feel very, very strongly that feminism is not solely about the empowerment of women (no doubt, again, I'm stating the obvious to you as you have read some feminist literature, though I'm curious what sort) but that it's about releasing both men and women from the gender roles imposed on them. I am sorry that some women who think talking about castrating men is somehow empowering have left you feeling emasculated and angry, but man, just ignore them like the psychos they are, and please don't purport that they are the norm. They are backlashing against the backlash that you participate in, and if the pattern continues, we'll all end up nuking each other. Time to take a breath and deal.
Your "bring on the flames" attitude is very telling... maybe you antagonize women to get their attention, like a kid who starts misbheaving because getting yelled at is better than being ignored. But it's clearly not an effective strategy. The assumptions and anger that run through your head when you ask to be insulted are the same as the assumptions and anger that run through those moron women's heads that say they want to castrate and kill men, and it's about as constructive. The women who wear "boys suck" t-shirts and make websites that say "all men must die" are sociopathic and utterly ignorable. Seriously, dude, these are not the women you are threatened by. These are women who feel just as victimized by and disenfranchised with the system that you purport victimizes and disenfranchises you. There's a common enemy out there somewhere, and my opinion of what it is isn't really relevant here, but I'll tell you buddy, it's no more women than it is men, or blacks, or lumps in your oatmeal.
Your "statistics" about the current status of women are pretty undersupported and seem to flow mainly from your observations, which I'm hoping you can understand are pretty biased, given your already-formed thoughts on women. Of those statistics you quote that don't flow from your personal observations, I have the following to say:
- The fact that up to 66% of college students are female does not prove your "point" unless you support it with a statistic about the percentage of college -applicants- that are female. If 66% or more of college applicants are female, then you have no argument here. Find that statistic and let us know. If men aren't applying to college, what's stopping them? My best guess is that they're figuring out that a college degree is increasingly meaningless, while women are still trying make up for those generations of women before them for whom the opportunity to go to college was simply and completely out of their reach. College is still important to women because it was denied to them before. College is no longer important to men, as it eventually won't be to women, because people of both genders get plenty far in their careers in fields either completely divorced from what they majored in, or they never finished college at all.
- I wouldn't be surprised if 60% of the workforce is female, because more women than men are left in a state of single parenthood and have to work to support children. "Workforce" is a pretty broad term and offers no insight into the types of jobs that women and men hold, and the disparities in pay, benefits, and general "respectability" between them.
Now's when you're like "women have better jobs than men" and I'll tell you this: women have better jobs than women have had in recent history; the situation for women is improving, but it's still not meeting the quality of jobs that men in general have. You seem to take exception to a woman lawyer complaining that the men in her firm control the firm, strictly based on the fact that she's a lawyer and therefore has nothing to complain about. And being a lawyer might be "better" than being something lower than a lawyer, but if there's something higher than a lawyer and a woman wants to be it, and she sees that systematically men who are less talented and capable than her are promoted above her because the firm knows that the man won't get pregnant, then... doesn't she have every right to be upset that the full extent of opportunities are not open to her because of her gender? Just as you would be if the opposite were true?
Your assertion that women dominate the tech field is just. plain. misinformed. It just is. I've worked now at three technical companies (now's where you dismiss me because i am a woman and work in a tech field and therefore, most people in the tech field must be women) and I can tell you, easily, without doubt, that (most of) the women you see flowing into Silicon Valley offices are in marketing and administrative assitant positions, and (most of) the men are in senior management and technology. That's how it was at each of the three different companies I worked for. There's nothing wrong with marketing, it's a powerful field, but the fact that there is a gender disparity points to something amiss, something that is telling this industry that marketing is women's work and technology is men's work. I don't care which is superior, I just care that there's a gender line between them. If you want to take a gender headcount of CEOs in Silicon Valley, shit, in the World, or maybe take off those "women are everywhere and they're all conspiring to beat me down" glasses, you'd see that the majority of workers in challenging, integral, well-paid positions are male, and that women who do manage to work in those challenging, integral, and well-paid positions are paid less than male counterparts doing the exact same work. It's changing gradually and I don't deny that, and I hope it continues to change, but to assert that the tables have turned is just completely untrue and unsupported by any evidence whatsoever except your own observations, which I noted before are very, very biased. But of course, you don't agree.
My observations are probably biased too, but yours are more so. Because i don't hate men, but you hate women. Now's where you say "yes you do hate men" and all i can say is, i work with far more men than women (being in the tech field and all, nudge nudge) and I get along with them famously. I want to date men and play with men and hang out with men and talk to men, and i want to play with, hang out with, and talk to women. So maybe I like men even more than women, given that they just scored 4 verbs and women scored only 3. I get along with men because i don't feel disenfranchised or victimized, because i like my life. And men get along with me because they feel the same way. It seems almost to me like what you really want to fight is a class war, not a gender war, but that's another ballgame. Anyway, I get along with the men who don't fear and hate me a lot better than the those who do. But I have plenty of close male friends with whom I share a great mutual respect, and that makes me happy. And it makes me want to write to you to convince you it's possible, even though I suspect your pathology is not going to allow my piddling little email to change it.
Not every woman's life is more fulfilling and easier than yours. And if your life is unfulfilling and hard, what is stopping you from taking the reins and making your life better? No woman is stopping you, and if you think women are stopping men, why are they not stopping all those other men who no doubt also have lives more fulfilling and easier than your own, that other 40% of the workforce, those men who have fulfilling relationships based on mutual respect? At some time, it's fairly clear, some women really fucked with your head and maybe they continue to do so because they sense your hatred of them and don't want to be around that (can you blame them?), but that victim mentality is what's holding you back, not women. If any specific women are blocking your path in the workplace or romantically a) maybe they know you run mysogyny.com and rightly conclude that you are not fit for a modern American workplace/relationship where you may need to work with/respect women b) they sense that you hate and fear women and rightly conclude that you are not fit for a modern American workplace/relationship where you may need to work with/respect women or c) you're just not qualified for the job you're trying for, or you're just deliberately going after women that are shallow and are not going to be interested in you no matter what, because you thrive on the rejection, because it feeds your hate. So get qualified, stop trying to overpower instead of co-existing with the women in your life, and start thinking about why hating women is self-defeating, and try to change your attitude, and then maybe you'll get further in life, and feel fulfilled.
Hope this helps.
Mary.
If you publish any of this, please just refer to me by my first name, as there are some psychos out there that share your views and may have a more violent way of expressing it. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
On to the response.
